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Dr. Frank Rao
CLEMSON — Dr. Frank Rao, an otolaryngologist, (an ear, nose and throat specialist) was arrested July 27 after shooting a 20-year-old man in the back, Clemson Police Chief Jimmy Dixon confirmed Friday.
“He just peppered the guy in the back with birdshot,” Dixon said. “Mr. Rao was arrested for assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature.”
According to the Clemson Police incident report, Michael Storey was in an argument with Rao’s son, Alex at their Clemson residence when Rao confronted Storey.
“A kid was at his house having an altercation with his son,” Capt. Karry Walker said. “Apparently, he told him to leave, and he didn’t.”
When Storey didn’t leave, Rao told his son to retrieve his Benelli 20-gauge shotgun, which was loaded with one to two rounds of birdshot. Rao then allegedly fired a warning shot into the ground, which ricocheted into Storey’s leg. As Storey began to leave, Rao took aim and shot him numerous times in the back, the report states.
Storey provided a statement to authorities and was later transported by emergency personnel to Anmed Health in Anderson.
Rao was taken into custody and charged with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, a misdemeanor. He was released on $10,000 personal recognizance bond.
Calls to Upstate ENT Associates, his place of practice in Seneca, during regular business hours were not returned.
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August 2, 2008
9:56 a.m.Report inappropriate content
now let me get this straight,the shotgun was loaded with 1-2 rounds of birdshot,he fired a warning shot into the ground,then took aim and shot this guy in the back numerous times.1 shot in ground only leaves 1 shot.something doesn't add up.
August 2, 2008
10:44 a.m.Report inappropriate content
The trespasser was forewarned that he was standing where Dr. Rao was about to start target practicing. This reinforces what I said a couple of days ago, take charge of your own health care, don't leave it up to the doctors.
August 2, 2008
6:34 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I think maybe this reporter probably doesn't know much about shotguns & birdshot. Probably what happened was the individual was hit numerous times by the birdshot even though the Dr. only fired one round while the victim was leaving. Still didn't feel too good I'll bet & definitely doesn't look for the Doc., to shoot a man in the back while he's leaving .
August 2, 2008
7:18 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Is it Just me ??? But Seems like the charge of assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature Should have been assault and battery with intent to Kill?
Also, No coverage of this on TV on any of the local news channels... hmmmm
August 3, 2008
2:04 a.m.Report inappropriate content
EELCS, how do figure that. Birdshot for birds and isn't going to kill you, but it's going to hurt. The guy who was shot should be fined for being stupid. You come to my home,property and violate my constitutional rights for life,liberty,and protection you may get more than birdshot. In this case the doctor should be let go,since he is protecting his family on his private property. What in the h is going on with our right to defend ourselves on our own property. This Doctor is a great asset to our community, he is a nice person, stand up for him and his family rights. Trespass after failure to leave after being warned should be applied to the holder, of the new bird feeder.
August 3, 2008
2:11 p.m.Report inappropriate content
helpdaddy1970, I am right there with you on our constitutional rights! We all have the right to protect whats ours.. home & family or anything on our private property.
I feel the same way and exercise my right!
Also, Dr Rao has treated me and my Family.
That being said I was just putting out there the fact that as the paper said He was Leaving and got shot in the back.
(I have seen in other cases) IF you use your fist, ball bat or anything considered a weapon they usually list it as Intent to Kill.
You gotta know Even though it was Bird shot it can kill you. A BB from a BB gun can kill you if hit at the right spot.
We don't know the whole story only those that were involved know what really happened.
August 3, 2008
11:43 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Your right anything can kill you if it hits the right spot, but with this being said, when does the doctor feel in fear of his life. The stress level that doc holiday was feeling at the time of this incident. The doc has got older and not being use to this kinda violence that he resorted to, he may have felt was life threating and his only last option. Everyday bills and family issues and his business, helping and healing people is the doctors code of ethics, he more than likely didn't want to hurt the kid, but had to let him know enough is enough. This kid probably had no job, no bills and no family he had to support.
August 4, 2008
4:46 a.m.Report inappropriate content
"As Storey began to leave, Rao took aim and shot him"
The article says the kid was leaving....he was not advancing toward the Dr.. At what stage does a person feel threatened? But if the Dr. has enough money to throw at this case, and he probably does, it probably will change the out come.
August 4, 2008
7:05 a.m.Report inappropriate content
The cops were called (evidentally) after the shooting. Why didn't he just call them before things got to this point. I believe in protecting one's home and family at all cost but I also believe in avoiding violence if possible. And you never shoot people in the back. If this guy was retreating, then Doc was wrong to fire at him.
August 4, 2008
10:43 a.m.Report inappropriate content
If you trespass on someone's property with the intent to cause problems, there is a reasonable expectation that things are going to go bad. We don't know how bad the altercation got between the boys, according to the article we know that he was asked to leave and didn't, we don't know if the boy was shot while he was attempting to pick up a weapon or whether he made threats on the family as he was leaving or he was leaving was his side of the "Storey" but not the truth. The fact is, HE WAS A TRESPASSER STANDING IN A TARGET PRACTICE ZONE (enter at your own risk). Without knowing the whole "Storey", I give the benefit of the doubt to the Dr.
There is currently no evidence that the police weren't called prior to, they might have not gotten there until just after the incident. If your life is threatened are you going to wait for the police to ride in in their tricked out cars to save you or are you going to take control of the situation?
August 4, 2008
11:52 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Sparrow I concurr. We are stereotyping the doctor, because of money, the truth of the matter everyone, well some pull for the underdog. I know I do, but the law is the law and the kid could have made a movement that made the doctor feel the need to fire again, was it dark, did the kid turn suddenly, we don't know accept the kid should have been charged with failure to leave the premises after being ask. The Law is the Law and the Captain and Chief should think about bringing charges against the kid, because in this case he is the aggressor.
August 4, 2008
11:56 a.m.Report inappropriate content
The Seneca Enquirer did report some false information. First they contradict themselves saying there were only 2 rounds in the gun, but the low life was shot in the leg and then numerous times in the back. That is more than two rounds. So, that is false.
The Enquirer then reported that they contacted the office of Dr. Rao. Again, false information. There were girls there at the office until 4:00pm and NO calls came in from the Seneca Enquirer. After 4:00 all calls are forwarded to the answering service for the office, all calls there are screened and recorded. Again, no calls came through that day. Mr. Moore was called out on this false statement and he didnt have any evidence to back up his so called numerous calls to the office.
Let me ask all you fathers, husbands, grandsfathers if a gang came onto your property threating your family, beating you up, would you sit back and wait for Andy Griffith to come save you (in which could be too late)or would you protect your family yourself?
I support Dr. Rao 100% and I would have done the same thing if it was my family that was being attacked by a gang.
August 4, 2008
12:01 p.m.Report inappropriate content
If someone comes on your property and threatens you and your children...what would you do? If we are all honest with ourselves, we would all be willing to protect our property and no doubt, our family. The paper is not stating all of the facts. This article clearly was not written based on reliable facts. For example, if you only have two round of birdshot--how can you shoot "numerous" times? And how true is it to call a 20 year old man a "kid"? If you are over the age of 18--last time I checked--you are an adult. It is clear that Mr. Moore(author of this article) does not know how to collect the correct information for printing a story. If this story lacks the the truth--how many other articles have been published that "exaggerate" the truth? Do not print information that is "exaggerated". Seek out all facts and get the story straight with all information (not just bits and pieces).
Dr. Rao is a great doctor. He does not deserve our ridicule. He and his practice are an asset to our community. He and his practice have my support, and I will continue to take my family there for all of their ENT needs.
August 4, 2008
2:31 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I also would like to show support for Dr. Rao, He has been a dedicated physician in our area for years and has treated my family and friends (very well) let me add and has been a valuable citizen in our community, how easy it is for us to kick a man when he is down instead of showing care and goodwill. I believe Dr. Rao found himself in a bad situation and possibily showed bad judgment in not immediately contacting authorities, however, I was not there and dont know what circumstances were involved. I am sure in a threatening situation who knows how any of us would handle a similiar situation. I have a comment for Mr. Moore (author of this article); you do realize that your article does affect alot of people in our area who depend on Dr. Rao, I feel your reporting was unprofessional and disrespectful (which is a problem in itself these days) to Dr. Rao. I realize that his arrest is public knowledge but to write such an one-sided article that will certainly cause more harm is due your own self-examination. I am sure when all the process is concluded and Dr. Rao is cleared of this mishap, I am sure we want be able to see the tiny article if any in your newpaper.
August 4, 2008
3:44 p.m.Report inappropriate content
One clarification - the police report states he was shot "numerous" times in the back through the second shot. That was ambiguously written.
All information is per law enforcement.
August 4, 2008
5:16 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I do NOT condone this flagrant use of violence, but I know this victim, and I know what he is capable of. He did something similar to my son at his mom's house recently. I wasn't notified until after the police had arrived, but he would not leave. One of my ex-wife's neighbors had to come over and protect them. I do NOT wish for anyone to be hurt like this, but this kid is into a lot of very bad things and needs to learn to conform to society. I don't know what he did to Dr. Rao's son, but I know him as well and understand that we all need to be held accountable for our actions. Some of these young people have no respect at all for authority, and it's time they learn that the "gangsta way" is getting them nowhere.
August 4, 2008
10:59 p.m.Report inappropriate content
You're thinking seems to be a bit flawed, this was not a "flagrant use of violence", he was protecting his own and I'm not sure you can characterize the trespasser as a victim, I think the real victims are the Dr. and his son who were forced into this situation by the trespasser who seems to have no respect or regard for life, liberty and property. What would you have done if you had been there with your son, would have sat passively by and waited for the police to show up? There are some situations, like your life being threatened, that require immediate action, if you wait for the police to show up you may be leaving your home in a body bag.
August 5, 2008
6:06 a.m.Report inappropriate content
The other article in todays paper with a woman shooting 2 black neighbors with birdshot, states she was charged with assault and battery with intent to kill,whats up????
August 5, 2008
7:10 a.m.Report inappropriate content
I support Dr.Rao. He has been an outstanding professional while treating all four members of my family over the past 15 years. I have the highest regard for his decision-making in everything he does. I would not trust my family's health or hearing to him if I did not think he was the best specialty doctor available.
While I am not fond of guns personally, we do have one in our home. Dr.Rao keeps several guns in his home, as I am sure the victim was knowledgeable. I understand one of our constitutional rights is to protect our home. The fact that the perpetutor in this case happened to be turned away from Dr.Rao at the time of the second shot, does not mean he was no longer a threat to Dr.Rao and his family.
Calling 911 does not mean you will get instant assistance. Perpetuators of crimes are well aware of this delay and are known to hurry their illegal activities before the police come and catch them red-handed. Dr.Rao was forced to take immediate measures to protect his family and home until reinforcements arrived. I commend him for his act of bravery.
While the victim is likely suffering from a great deal of pain right now, I am sure that he learned a valuable lesson that might save his life later. When someone asks for you to leave their property, then you are no longer welcome and it would be best to leave as requested.
August 5, 2008
9:53 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Peckernat-- A group of men came onto the Dr.s property with intent to hurt his family. The male was asked to leave he didnt, the man began to strike the Dr. The dr. protected himself with a gun. With bird shot bullets, mind you. My brother in law has been hit with these and I can assure you that it does not hurt that bad. The Dr. had NO intent on killing this man. If he had, he wouldnt have used bird shot.
So, in your mind, why would you think that his charge should be with intent to kill, when he clearly had no intent, he was clearly defending himself and his family.
I have seen the incident report, and if you read it and then read this article, you have no clue that the Dr. was in fact protecting his family. The man began shoving the Dr. and then in turn the Dr. faught back. You also dont know that it was a group of people who came on to the property not one.
I am shocked by some of the comments I have read and heard from people. If the closed minded people of this community would open their eyes and really think about what happened to this Dr. and his family, you would realize that the Dr. and his family are the vitims.
August 5, 2008
10:10 a.m.Report inappropriate content
This comment is for author of this article--Andrew Moore:
Ok-I understand that the Clemson Police Dept. states shot "numerous" times on their incident report. The officer responsible for writing this report is at fault for being misleading. Why would an "ambiguous" statement be published in the first place. If you, the author of this article find that statement vague--why would you include it in your article? Oh well...moving on to another concern. How do explain the calls made to Upstate ENT on Friday? I happen to know that there were several girls working all day in the office until 4pm. Anytime the office closes, the telephones are put on service. The answering service records all incoming calls, and there is NO record of you or anyone from Eagle Media calling after hours on Friday afternoon. So, Mr. Moore--please "clarify" that statement (since this was made by you). Clearly someone here is being dishonest...and based on the facts (facts- being not ambiguous statements)... I would say that someone is you. You owe Upstate ENT an apology for your dishonest comment.
August 5, 2008
10:17 a.m.Report inappropriate content
"THE GOLDEN RULE" Those with the Gold Make the rules !!
August 5, 2008
11:05 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Ok, I try not to get too involved in the comments section of the site - but questioning my integrity will not stand.
I know as a fact that I called Upstate ENT Associates in Seneca last Friday at approximately 4:15 to 4:30 and got a message prompt. I did not leave a message, as I assumed, as I've been told here, that my number should show up on their system.
I am telling the truth, and I'm sure a glance at our own phone records would indicate. I called (864) 886-9669, listed at a Seneca address. I have no explanation as to why anyone's system did not pick up my number or call, nor is it my job to explain that.
Again, attacks on my integrity as a journalist are not something I'm prepared to tolerate.
August 5, 2008
11:19 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Dr. Rao - You go dude! It is about time people (and if they have money it helps I agree) started standing up for their right to protect family, self and property! I'm glad Dr. Rao has enough money that nothing will happen to him (even if it shouldn't matter-it does). If people who can get by with it will continue to protect themselves, then the rest of us with no money and no influence will get the same rights back....Dr. Rao is also my allergist....glad to know he is a true blue American who believes in our constituional rights....maybe it will help the rest of us! Hell, these days you can't even shoot a dog jumping on your cat with birdshot without getting in trouble...I know, I almost did. But I wasn't about to let a dog chase my cat and growl at me in the process IN MY OWN YARD....I was just lucky I had another neighbor to witness, or I would have been charged (according to the officer who came out)with malicious damage to animals or property, or something to that effect.
August 5, 2008
12:01 p.m.Report inappropriate content
To Andrew Moore (author of this article): You state in the article that "calls were made to Upstate ENT and were NOT RETURNED"--In regards to your last comment, you state "you did NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE"--if you did not leave a message, then obviously the phone call would not have been returned-because how would the office know to call an individual back when there is NO MESSAGE LEFT? So, when it comes to your integrity--I am questioning it--because you state "phone calls were not returned"--Well, it clear no calls can be returned when YOU hung up on the answering prompt. As I stated earlier...you are not being completely honest-you just contradicted your own words...you do owe Upstate ENT an apology.
August 5, 2008
9:08 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Dr. Rao saved my husband's life, literally, by being there when he was needed, day, night, weekends, whatever it took, he did it. He took time away from his family to watch over a very sick man, until finally, he pulled through. Dr. Rao is a healer, but he's also a father who'll protect his family if he needs to. The article sensationalized that whole incident to make it look as though the 20-year-old was a helpless victim, and the doctor the aggressor. All of us who know the kind of man Dr. Rao really is and what he means to this community, need to support him right now. Dr. Rao has more than one gun, and if he'd intended to do real damage, he wouldn't have picked the one loaded with bird shot. It sounds to me like that was the only way to get this person out of his house, and I'm sure that any one of us would have done the same thing.
August 5, 2008
11:45 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I will say this, I am not from the area, but do believe that once asked to leave the owner's premises and the person replying by saying NO, then praise to he and his son for holding his own and protecting his property. These kids today have zero respect for anyone! You have to be concerned by a kid (or young adult) replying by either not leaving when asked, or responding NO straight out. Darn straight the doctor was protecting his family as well as himself.
August 5, 2008
11:54 p.m.Report inappropriate content
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August 7, 2008
12:01 a.m.Report inappropriate content
You people are a joke. The Drs. son is more trouble than any kid that was on his property. Ever since I've known them he has been nothing but trouble. You would not beleive what was swept under the rug. Maybe you should get some back ground on him and his boy. Who do you think pulled the trigger? I'd like to see that birdshot from that expensive Beneli. Who cares what kind of gun you shoot someone in the back with. It's the fact you shot them in the back. Who do you think really pulled the trigger. Frank would take the blame for anything Alex does. I don't know if you can even shoot birdshot from a Beneli.
August 7, 2008
2:15 a.m.Report inappropriate content
That's why you are a out of towner, I don't talk about their past history, I don't care about their past history. You must be the father of the new bird feeder holder, because the Doc's right to protect his family and his property is in place. You are a joke, from whatever town you come from the laws must be different. The kid must have been lacking in some brain cells when the doc told his son to go get his gun, because I'm already gone when he says gun, but I'm not that stupid to start trouble on someones elses property forrest, like momma always said life like a bunch of chocolates, you never know what you gonna get,stupld.
August 7, 2008
6:54 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Helpdaddy1970, lol. You should go back and read your comment. You must be just like Forrest Gump. I'm from Seneca but I don't live there now. What makes you think I'm a man. You must be. Surely you could tell from my intellegent remarks what gender I am. Do you know what the law is anywhere about shooting people? I don't understand the comment about the bird feeder holder. I think he was shot with birdshot not bird feed.What size was the birdshot? Do you know that? Maybe you should have more concern for the boy and his condition than a Dr. who's son may be a hoodlum anyway. Do you know anything about him? "Trouble breeds trouble". That's a good saying you should remember. Stop and think , though it may hurt a little, before you make more comments. How would you feel if it were your son who was shot in the back? Maybe you don't have children because you don't seem to have feelings for them. The boy was leaving when he was shot in the back. This was according to the article from the police report. If you're doubting that then you should take it up with them.
August 7, 2008
10:49 a.m.Report inappropriate content
You have a good point helpdaddy, you hear the word gun that should be a pretty good indication that you should leave. outoftowner, maybe you don't have kids because if you did you would agree that no matter what your kids have done, you're not going to stand there and let someone assault them on your own property or anyone else's property for that matter. If you do have kids, I'm sure they are happy to know that they can count on you.
To coin the phrase from the great Ron White....YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!
August 7, 2008
1 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I commend the DR. Should I ever need an ENT, he will be my 1st chioce.
August 7, 2008
3:35 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Thit is a really stupid comment from Outoftowner.
"Who do you think really pulled the trigger".
If his son pulled the trigger, do you really think that the police would have arrested the Dr. How would the dr. pull that one off? Do you think he asked Michael Storey to lie and say that he shot him? Wow that would be some nice power to have. I mean seriously, you must be a woman, because that is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard!! You should keep your day job! Your not really good at knowing what you think happens in a town you NO longer live in, or do you live here, maybe that is just a story you made up?!?!?
Using your own quote: "Stop and think , though it may hurt a little, before you make more comments".
Wow quick to judge the Dr.s son! You are a closed minded person. I would call the boy who came with a group of other boys on someone elses property the hoodlum. Seems like you have a little grudge with the Dr. and his family. you need to grow up and stop running your mouth and making up stuff.
The gun is in police custody, I'm sure they are trained and know if the shots came from that gun. You have just proven what an idiot you are! Sounds like Outoftowner is a little jealous that the Dr. has some nice things that maybe he\she cant afford.
August 7, 2008
3:54 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Ah sidmaxlucy...would you like to rephrase this statement "I mean seriously, you must be a woman, because that is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard!!"
August 7, 2008
4:54 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I apologize for that!! I truly do! I was irritated at Outoftowner!!
August 7, 2008
6:01 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Forgiven!
August 7, 2008
8:55 p.m.Report inappropriate content
All this talk about rights is foolish to say the least.
Cops even though they have licensed to cary and have full authority to do what they have to in order to keep peace are still required to give a measured response.
It is shameful that the police are letting the guy off easy. They would not dare do that if the guy was not a doctor.
Normal folks are expected and required to call the police if something is going on and someone is breaking a law. You don't have a right to take things in your own hand and go vigilante on someone.
The guy should face criminal felony charges since he went way overboard. You can't just shoot someone ever that is unarmed. The kid was not a life threatening situation. Had the kid been packing he would not have most definately fired first or at least back.
Someone needs to catch the dear doctor and show him what it is like to have someone take things in their own hand.
August 7, 2008
9:48 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I do have children and they don't run with that crowd the Drs. son runs with. Makes me wonder if he ever had him in church. Church and family are a big part of raising children. I am a woman. I own a gun and I have rights just like you and they don't include shooting people in my yard. Maybe if you think that's o.k. you should go tell those officers families that were shot in the yard of the people over their property. You agree with them? I have never heard such heartless comments towards another human being. You don't know anything about the situation. Why was the boy there to start with? When did the Dr. call 911? A Dr. should have enough patience to deal with a situation without letting it esculate to gunfire. I've had Dr. patient dealings with the Dr. and when he couldn't figure out why he left my tonsils after surgery I opted to go elsewhere. I also know his son and his background. I wouldn't want what the Dr. has or even wish it on my dog. So, no he has nothing I want. I guess when you're stumped you can use other peoples comments for a comeback and resort to calling names. I don't think anyone deserves to be shot in the back regardless if it's birdshot or buckshot. By the way I am very satisfied with my life and my family. I think the Dr. would envy me! Make sure you read and copmrehend this whole comment. Don't just pick out a couple of words to use for redneck remarks. Surely you people can say something intellegent. Ever heard of wikipedia. There are lots of words in there.
August 7, 2008
10:48 p.m.Report inappropriate content
The recent Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia vs Heller ruled....
The Court held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and to bear arms, and is not limited to possession of firearms in connection with service in militias. The Court indicates that the right to bear arms is connected with the right to self defense.
The right to keep and bear arms, under Scalia's analysis, is not a right that is granted by the Constitution - it is a pre-existing right, and what is guaranteed by the Constitution is that the government will not infringe on that right. The right to keep and bear arms guarantees to all citizens the right to defend ourselves, and is connected to our natural right to self-preservation.
So supernix, I will overlook your statements because I realize in your case, ignorance must really be bliss.
August 8, 2008
2:11 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Dear Mr. Out of town her in your own head, I already new you were a women wanting to be a man by the tone of your fingers, also by the remark you made of not knowing what was a new bird feeder, it was a joke that went way over your head, most women are smart but you fall short because your so over protective that the law is of little interest to you. Simply put, you come into my yard and start I would do what the doc did, this kid sounds like he may belong to you, by your fingertone I think he is. Well is he? Oh! I'm sorry, deep subject for such a shallow mind. (well) get it.
August 8, 2008
2:25 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Dear Super Nix,
The Hell you don't have that right. The police distance was 30 feet now I think it's 21 feet. The kid could have said he was going to burn his house down or going to get his gun, that doc, shot for a reason, he was defending his rights, and I would take up the same for you. I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT.
August 8, 2008
4:46 a.m.Report inappropriate content
You people are the same ones that have given the South such stereotypes as: going to family reunions to meet your spouse. Ever heard of spell check by the way. Again, typical of men with one track minds to stick to the gun issue. The case you refer to didn't set a presidence or anything. You prabably had your wife or girlfriend look that up for you anyway maybe you will get her to dig up more stuff for you learn. I definetly agree with the constitution. The men who wrote it were actually using their time and brains for good use. They knew how to do something constructive. Hey, maybe if you could see if the Dr. could help rid you of those brainpoots you could write your own amendment containing things like how it's o.k. to shoot someone in the back because he's in your yard. It would be interesting to see how this case would play out but since he is who he is we may never hear anymore about this. Being selective in hearing, as your gender tends to be, you proved my point about the redneck comments. I didn't realize you would have selective reading also. Why did it make you so mad to refer to you as redneck? I would think you would be proud of that as it seems you don't have much else going for you. By the way what grade are you in? One more thing about your corny, jokes. It wasn't over my head I just didn't bring myself down far enough to understand it and it's still not funny. I don't think you should try stand up anytime soon.
August 8, 2008
7:10 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Wow! maybe she should take her own advice.
"I have never heard such heartless comments towards another human being."
And by the way, you are that low! You have proven that in your comments.
August 8, 2008
1:18 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Petition for open carry in South Carolina
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August 8, 2008
3:24 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Outoftowner:
Spellcheck??? Presidence?? or precidence? Prabably? or probably?
Anyway here is what the law is in SC:
The common law of self-defense in South Carolina is set forth in State v. Fuller, 297 S.C. 440, 377 S.E.2d 328 (1989). The elements (conditions that a person must meet in order to successfully claim self-defense) of self-defense in South Carolina are:
1. You must be without fault in bringing on the difficulty;
2. You must actually believe you are in imminent danger of loss of life or serious bodily injury or actually be in such danger;
3. If you believe you are in such danger, you must use deadly force only if a reasonable or prudent man of ordinary firmness and courage would have believed himself to be in such danger, or, if you actually were in such danger, the circumstances were such as would warrant a man of ordinary prudence, firmness and courage to strike the fatal blow in order to save yourself from serious bodily harm or losing your own life; and
4. You had no other probable means of avoiding the danger of losing your own life or sustaining serious bodily injury than to act as you did in the particular instance.
(Source: http://www.sled.state.sc.us/sled/default...).
He was injured and retreating. Why shoot him again? I believe in self defence, and I own guns, but don't put me on this jury.
August 9, 2008
1 a.m.Report inappropriate content
Here we go again, Were in a battle of wits and your unarmed, wonder, what kinda self-defense you can use on that. I've got my Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, and I know the Law, and what is going to be imposed as a fine, yes fine, and what book the Judge is going to refer back to, to get his information on similar cases. This is standard. But I like toying with you outoftowner, your a lot of fun.
August 9, 2008
4:57 p.m.Report inappropriate content
I think outoftowner needs to do her own "spellcheck". I think we all occasionally have "fat finger disease", no one is perfect even when they claim to be. I thought that would be a nice way to say it. (on Aug.7 9:48-esculate)
Well, I do have selective reading. I was only browsing posts until some of the comments caught my attention. First of all, I am a woman who is a damn good shot, will defend my home, born and raised here, and have some hillbilly and redneck in me. Yes and I am very proud of my raising. Oh, let's not forget, I have a B.A. degree in Special Education, so I'm not stupid.
You have no details about how the troublemaker was shot in the back. (I call him that because he came on the property, and started the trouble. If he had not come, there would have been no problem, he would not have been shot.) He could have threatened that he was going to his vehicle to retrieve a weapon. If you had been the Dr. would you have stood there with your tongue hanging out of your mouth waiting to see if he had one or not? I wouldn't, I would've fired to!
If we Americans, don't stand up and defend our rights in our own front yards, we might as well lie down and die. We will be giving anyone the right to come on our property and do as they wish and we can't protect ourselves. It will make no matter if we felt threatened or not, because "Miss Outoutoftowner don't think it's right". She feels entitled to her rights, well by the Grace of God, give us ours BACK! They are being taken away one by one. Wake up people!!
August 9, 2008
6:59 p.m.Report inappropriate content
Whether they are going to the car for a gun or not, you still can not shoot someone in the back!
I don't support the kid, or what he did. Come at me with a knife or a gun, I will drop you in your tracks, and I won't just wound you.
I will not shoot you in the back.
You can not shoot someone in the back.
August 12, 2008
6:42 a.m.Report inappropriate content
How do you know he wasn't coming towards him? The doctor could have felt threatened, as he fired, the butthead turned and started to run. I don't believe this upstanding doctor, or anyone, in our community would have just shot this fella in the back cold-heartedly. There is more to this "Storey" than is being reported.
outoftowner, I believe you are just pissed off at the Doc, with a personal axe to grind. This is not the place to air it. If someone were seeking treatment or whatever from the good doctor,that would be different. But it is irrevelant here. A person cannot be objective when they are personally involved.