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Tell Willie: 8/28/08

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Willie,

I know you donÂčt like to print e-mails about illegal immigrants, you ask how we know they are illegal. Well, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, chances are it is a duck, correct? My question is, how do illegal students sign up to attend our schools in Oconee County when we (legal citizens) have to have proof of immunization and social security numbers for our children? Without this information, we would not be allowed to enroll our children in school. Can you please explain to me how they can do this?

Willie says:

According to Director of School and Community Relations Kay Powell, the students without the information you mention are guaranteed an education by: “The McKinney Homeless Act (federal legislation) of 2004-2005 states: In the 2004–2005 school year 6,149 children and youth were identified as homeless (and) are not required to have school records such as birth certificates, proof of guardianship, residency requirements, and immunization records should not delay or prevent enrollment of homeless students. Homeless students should be enrolled immediately; then the school should secure the proper documentation.

A homeless child or youth may remain in the school he or she attended before becoming homeless, if that is determined to be in the child’s best interest.

Homeless students must be provided services comparable to those offered to students who are not homeless, including transportation, meals and special programs.”

Willie,

Compare the Pickens County detention center Web site www.pickenscosheriff.org/detention with that of Oconee County www.oconeelaw.com/inside/detention.php. Oconee County’s is a joke in comparison. What happened to the great communications center that the huge addition to the OLEC’s offices was supposed to be?

Willie says:

Maybe some folks will go out on the Internet and do what you suggest. If they find Oconee’s Web site lacking, the next step is to share that concern with the detention center officials.

Willie,

I read in the paper that the sheriff is upset with the cut in his funding. Most taxpayers see a bunch of waste and bad use of taxpayer money in his office. Why do the investigators need Crown Vics? Could Ford Tauruses that save gas be a better option for them? Why do the narcotics need them gas drinking Tahoes?

Part of the funds for them might come from drug seizure money, but who buys their gas for them Tahoes? Why does the victims advocate need a big Tahoe, does she go off road a lot?

When Tahoes are purchased, why must they buy top of the line models? I wonder how much fuel could be saved from his budget with V-6 cars for everyone but road deputies.

Willie says:

You sure have a lot of questions, but Sheriff Singleton was happy to oblige a reporter at the paper with this answer: “My budget wasn’t actually ‘cut.’ I thought it was going to be, but money was just shifted to the jail rather than the office and that’s still in my budget. It would be irresponsible to buy new vehicles when there’s still good use in the current ones. When it comes time to change them out, we’ll be looking at getting some smaller ones. However, the SWAT teams need the larger vehicles for the huge amounts of gear they carry with them. Also, our area has lots of rough terrain, mountainous, dirt roads that require really heavy, sturdy vehicles. The victim advocate vehicles are purchased with fine money from tickets, etc. When abuse victims are moved to a safe haven (sometimes hurriedly in the middle of the night) you may be talking about a mother, several children, a crib, clothes and any belongings that can be salvaged. A large vehicle is needed. Taxes do pay for the gas for the victim advocate. If your reader, Willie, wants to send me their name and address and tell me how much their share of that gas is (about a tenth of a penny), I’ll give them a refund.”

Willie,

Just wanted to warn your readers that saying a--h--- in public in Anderson on a Sunday is a sin punishable by 30 days in jail. My daughter and her friends are regulars known to the staff and management of a restaurant in Anderson.

On a recent crowded Sunday, while waiting for a table, they were too busy chatting to notice they were blocking the exit door.

A man shoved them on his way out prompting my daughter (who is no saint) to call him an a--h. An off duty cop shoved his badge in her face, demanding to know her age and if she “knew what day it was.” That prompted a smart reply of 22 and “Sunday, not my Sabbath” (we are Jews).

He proceeded to admonish her saying that he should haul her to jail and lock her up for swearing.

He asked her if she had a “spare 30 days” prompting her to wonder out loud if we lived in South Carolina or Afghanistan.

The restaurant staff diffused this situation by seating them and they apologized to my daughter. My daughter is guilty of being rude, but this policeman, if he in fact was one, is guilty of compromising his integrity. She did not get his name or badge number, had she, this letter would be addressed to the police chief.

Willie says:

Laws against public profanity going way back still exist in some places.

Most of them have been what they call sunsetted, like they just become obsolete and fade away. They are rarely enforced even where they still exist in some dusty tome. Also profanity is usually exhibited by someone getting charged with other behavior like drunk and disorderly conduct, making threats, etc.

Sounds like your daughter needs to use better judgment with her language, and that the man she daughter encountered was using his position to throw his weight around.

Willie,

Isn’t it amazing how short the American memory is? Gas prices went down, folks have increased their speed, others are trying to break 0 to 60 records and nobody’s complaining and my neighbor stopped drilling in his backyard. Wake up, South Carolina.

Now is the time to develop alternative energy, good habits and conserve fuel. Tell me how much you’re all laughing when your electrical bill increases.

Willie says:

Yup. The energy crisis is far from over just ’cuz gas went down a little. The longer we suffer from the “Ostrich Syndrome,” the worse it’s gonna get.

Willie,

I have read in recent editorials where several people have criticized Medicare Advantage plans. I feel that it is my duty as a citizen to share my viewpoint to everyone who believes everything they read, for there are always two sides to every story.

I am a senior citizen, 72 years young, and I proud to say that I am on a Medicare Advantage plan with Humana. I was the most skeptical person in the world of these things when they first came out.

However, my Medicare Supplement had gone up to over $160 per month, not including a drug plan, which would have cost me around $30 more, plus, the Part B premium that comes out of my check each month. (Keep in mind the supplement started right at $100; it goes up each year I get older).

I simply could not afford it anymore. So I researched these “MA” plans and decided to try one out.

That was in 2006 and I am happy to say that I have literally saved thousands of dollars. My premium is now $39 a month (with the drug plan), my generics are free, I can go to any doctor and I get to go the Central Clemson Rec Center for free.

I wonder if these people who are so critical of these Advantage plans have ever tried one? It’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made and I tell everyone I know about it.

For a widower like me to be saving $150 a month is a big deal and it is unfortunate a bill was passed to cut funding for these plans.

Willie says:

It’s always good to hear both sides of every story, especially from someone like you that is “walking the walk.” The more information readers have, the better the decisions they can make for themselves and their family members.

Willie,

I was very surprised to read today that Clemson was preparing to play another 2008 football season! I thought sure that the season was over because I read all about every game blow by blow, play by play in The Daily Journal. Didn’t Clemson receive the Purple Hog National Championship Award already? A little fan-atical aren’t we?

Willie says:

Some folks would say there is no such thing as too “fan-atical”!

Willie,

Recently we purchased a bucket of chicken from (a restaurant) in Clemson. 10 pieces for $10. When we got home and dished it up, we found only nine pieces. I wonder if that is their way of increasing profits?

Willie says:

Let’s assume it wasn’t deliberate. The employee that counted was just careless and doing their job badly. Hope they’ll make it up when you stop in to tell them (nicely) that you did not get what you paid for.

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  1. August 28, 2008

    2:17 a.m.
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    fitmom (Anonymous) says...

    I have seen the oconee county sheriff's website. It is rather bare. I would like to see it beefed up a little with
    some current info. It really hasn't changed at all. It just kind of sits there. Come on OCSO I am sure you have someone on staff that can spurce up your site. Put'em to work.

  2. August 28, 2008

    2:24 a.m.
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    helpdaddy1970 (Anonymous) says...

    i do agree with the sheriff, you have to keep up with the criminals and oconee is not getting any smaller. and we do have rough terrain, i don't understand why they would have cut the budget.

  3. August 28, 2008

    8:36 a.m.
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    jsl47 (Anonymous) says...

    In reference to allowing children to attend our schools when they can't provide the necessary records: Surely they have to have an address. If not how does anybody know that they even live here. If you have an address, how can you be considered homeless. Makes absolutely no sense. If they live here then they should have everthing that is required to attend our schools. Including a green card!

  4. August 28, 2008

    8:57 a.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    Note that it says homeless, not illegal, there's a big freakin' difference between the two and if it were a homeless American student, DHS would be called so fast it would make your head swim. I can't help but wonder how a homeless student fits into their agenda of making those mandatory home visits. I can't understand why parents so willingly give up their rights and allow a teacher into their homes for the sole purpose of snooping, the mandatory home visits violate your 4th amendment right and NO official, school or public, will EVER be allowed in my home without a warrant.

  5. August 28, 2008

    9:06 a.m.
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    thlhjh76 (Anonymous) says...

    That reply by Kay Powell had NOTHING to do with the question. The question was about illegal immigrant students having records, not about being homeless. Ms. Powell needs to be asked if a student has no immunization records, birth certificate, etc., but is not homeless, why are there different standards and requirements for American kids and aliens? If a 6-year-old, citizen or alien, has no shot records or immunizations, but is allowed in school anyway, how many communicable diseases could he or she spread before being detected? Ms. Powell's reply was all about political correctness and "not our fault". Yes, jsl47, surely they must provide a residence address so that the school can communicate with parents if necessary. Or is asking for an address being politically incorrect also?

  6. August 28, 2008

    9:08 a.m.
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    superduper (Anonymous) says...

    Since I don't like filling out paper work next year I think I'm going to say I'm homeless. But then again If I were to do that the school would call DSS on me. Is that actually what these illegals are saying to avoid the proper paper work????? What can we do about this, because it's obvious they are not homeless. I'm really tired of this kind of crap, if someone were homeless DSS would be called. I don't think their children should have the same kind of education as mine. If they are illegal, then they have no rights and certainly don't deserve the free education. Or at least that's my opinion for what it's worth.

  7. August 28, 2008

    9:23 a.m.
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    llinsin (Anonymous) says...

    Waaaait just a minute here. Not long ago, we were told that bus drivers need to learn some Spanish, so that if they deliver a child to his HOME, and no one is HOME, the kid can be taken back to school. How do they take kids HOME, if they don't have a HOME address on file, or even know for sure where the parents reside? As for those 6,149 "homeless" children and youths we had in our schools in the '04-'05 school year, where do our bus drivers deliver those who ride buses? I want to know if school administrators are educating 6,149 kids every day, officially declaring them "homeless", and not turning them over to child protective services. I know the answer, of course, but I want an explanation. I know Superintendent Lucas often reads these comments, and I'd appreciate a reply. If we have more than 6,000 kids who leave our schools every day, with no home to go to, why aren't schools responsible for finding out why? If they really are not homeless, why did we get a reply like the one above from Mrs. Powell?

  8. August 28, 2008

    9:32 a.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    Speaking of the bus drivers having to learn Spanish, here's a little tidbit of info I received last week. My granddaughter is in the 7th grade at Walhalla Middle School, she told me that she had signed up for Spanish but the Spanish class has been cancelled.

  9. August 28, 2008

    9:41 a.m.
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    cruisin63 (Anonymous) says...

    I can't believe Mommy would let the world know what a disrespectful child she has raised.I guess she believes every word she tells her.How did Mommy know he shoved them out of the way?Apparently she wasn't there.When he "Shoved" the badge in her face, did it leave an imprint of the badge on her face? My bet is ,if the cop and daughter were together, there would be a different story to tell.Probably more than one curse word was said.Sounds like another case of a spoiled brat who has had very little discipline ,and Mom blames everyone else but her daughter for her actions.

  10. August 28, 2008

    9:47 a.m.
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    Summer07 (Anonymous) says...

    This is in regards to "homeless" children going to our schools. There are a couple of problems here.
    *They are receiving all of the benefits as those children who are here legally, which means I now have to pay for their lunch, their special teachers who are going to teach them to speak English, medical care and dental care.
    *I have to tell my 3rd grader that he has to do without so many of the “extras” because I can’t afford those things. He has to pack his lunch because I can’t afford school lunch. BUT many of these “homeless” children are coming in wearing brand name clothes, all of the extra “cool” stuff and eating school lunch and having extra snacks during class time.
    *These children are NOT homeless. Many of them are living better than those of us who are born American. I have to be cautious of my grocery bill BUT just look at what the “homeless” are buying every Saturday at Wal-Mart. My home needs repairs that I can not afford but maybe if I move a couple of other families into my home, we can then afford it.
    I am just so tired of the “homeless” being given EVERYTHING!!!! We are enabling them!!! My child has the right to learn while at school and not having to worry about the teacher going to fast because of his classmates not understanding what the teacher said because their English is weak.
    I am teaching my young son to grow into being a strong man, one who will provide for his family one day. He may look to those we consider “homeless” and see that it can be an easier road and chose that path.

    WOW
.. I could go on for too long about this
.. But the bottom line is that these children are not “homeless”, they are here illegally and lying!!!!

  11. August 28, 2008

    9:52 a.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    llinsin, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a reply, the last time Mr. Lucas responded here he got tore a new one. There is very little common sense coming from the school district, uniforms make no sense, forcing bus drivers to learn Spanish makes no sense, canceling Spanish classes makes no sense, only allowing a certain number of absences with or without an excuse makes no sense. Imagine that your child misses all the alloted days plus one and had a doctors excuse for all but 3 of those days, that plus one would still be held against him/her, so why bother even bringing an excuse in. That's exactly what happened to me and 4 of those days my child was sent home by the school and not allowed back for 4 days because of chicken pox, yet at the end of the year they decided to give me a hard time about it, that's the first time I told them that Homeschooling was not a foreign concept to me. Also my child was honor roll and gifted and talented, I suggested to them that having a bright child leave their school and take her money with them was not in their best interest, they backed down. And furthermore, again totally off topic but I'm po'd just thinking about it, my child's birthday is Sept 4, the cut of date for entering school is Sept 1, I had to pay $1500 to get her in kindergarten for 3 lousy days.

  12. August 28, 2008

    11:34 a.m.
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    Ken (Anonymous) says...

    On the homeless children flap, the McKinney Homeless Act does pertain to homeless children who are citizens of this country. This would have to include children born in America to illegal alien parents. The fact that they are born in America makes them American citizens. That means that the children of illegal aliens who were born in their native country are not entitled to an education and need to be sent home with their parents. The problem is how do we ascertain the difference? The politicians in that cesspool on the Potomac (Republicans and Democrats alike) have with their inaction; put this country on a collision course with disaster.

  13. August 28, 2008

    11:55 a.m.
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    cowboy (Anonymous) says...

    Yes, Ken, to HOMELESS children who are citizens which includes by law those born in this country to illegal parents. Howver, the key word is HOMELESS.....None of them are homeless. It is exactly like Summer07 says. There are lots of american born and bread children who don't have what the HOMELESS immigrants have....it doens't take a genius to look around and see that. Even my 8 year old granddaughter notices that they have better than she does but get "special" advantages at school. I can't explain it to her....maybe I will take her to a school board meeting and let her have 15 minutes to ask these questions. Think they would answer a child honestly?

  14. August 28, 2008

    noon
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    dds8892 (Anonymous) says...

    Come on people this is the good ole U.S of A!!!! What we need to to do is exercise our god given right as americans, protest in down town walhalla......the right to assemble is covered in our first amendment.
    Right now i am in the middle east with the military but when i get home i would like to do this, who is with me???
    I have been reading about our failed local leadership in oconee county, from tax payers getting over taxed, a sheriff getting caught shoplifting and the illegal immigrant problem.
    We as citizens need to take back our county and country, we nee to show the powers to be that we as citizens of Oconee County that we will not stand for this anymore.
    Let me know if anyone is interested in doing this?? I have never seen so much incompetence in my life, we as citizens need to take back our rights that we do not have now in oconee county.

  15. August 28, 2008

    12:03 p.m.
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    llinsin (Anonymous) says...

    Ken, we would be able to tell the difference between American-born and foreign-born, if birth certificates were required to enter school. I was once told that birth certificates are required. But it still doesn't answer the question about what the school system is doing with all those children officially designated as "homeless", legally here or not. If the number of so-called "homeless" in our schools is so outrageously high, why aren't schools and child protective services resolving this? I ask again, if an eight-year-old child lists as his home address, "none", are the schools turning him loose at 3:00 P.M., officially (of course we know better) with no place to sleep that night? Where's the reply from DSS if this is happening? We deserve replies from the authorities involved, with no p.c., no semantics games, no legalese, no verbal escape hatches. Are they really homeless? If so, where is DSS? If not, why are shot records, identification, etc. not required? Well?

  16. August 28, 2008

    1:31 p.m.
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    Ken (Anonymous) says...

    Cowboy and llinsin you are both right. You ask questions that nobody seems to be able or willing to answer. I do understand that children born in America to illegal alien parents arn't necessarily homeless however, being American citizens they are entitled to an education.

  17. August 28, 2008

    2:04 p.m.
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    NonSequitur (Anonymous) says...

    Within Christian circles, the ethic of reciprocity is often called the "Golden Rule". Christianity adopted the ethic from two edicts, found in Leviticus 19:18 ("Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.") and Leviticus 19:34 ("But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God"). Crucially, Leviticus 19:34 universalizes the edict of Leviticus 19:18 from "one of your people" to all of humankind.

  18. August 28, 2008

    2:17 p.m.
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    jsl47 (Anonymous) says...

    Re: Homeless

    Do you ever feel like the people in the schools, government, etc. think that people are so stupid that they don't know any better. My grandaughter had to have a 2 inch thick folder full of documents before she could start kindergarten this year, not to mention "material fees". She is American born to American born parents. This is not fair to the children nor their parents. Seems like you get penalized for be American. I think we are being bamboozeled here and taken total advantage of. I personally am sick of it.

  19. August 28, 2008

    4:27 p.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    "Do you ever feel like the people in the schools, government, etc. think that people are so stupid that they don't know any better." They are!

  20. August 28, 2008

    4:52 p.m.
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    mlucas251 (Anonymous) says...

    In reference to student enrollment comments ...

    The U.S. Supreme Court decision (Plyler v. Doe), declared states and school districts could not deny a K-12 education to any resident child if a free public education is offered to other children. (James Plyler, who lent his name to this significant case, was superintendent in Tyler, Texas, at the time.)

    More specifically, the law stated:
    (1) public schools must provide an equal education to all children, regardless of citizenship status (14th Amendment);
    (2) schools are prohibited from asking for documentation of a child’s immigration status;
    (3) schools cannot use Social Security numbers as a prerequisite for enrollment;
    (4) school personnel are forbidden from sharing any information about a child’s immigration status with any individual or institution, including government agencies that enforce the immigration laws.

    References - US Supreme Court Site: http://www.oyez.org/cases/1980-1989/1981...

    Find Law - http://laws.findlaw.com/us/457/202.html

    Cornell Law School Supreme Court Collection - http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/...

  21. August 28, 2008

    5:26 p.m.
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    Ken (Anonymous) says...

    Hay mlucas250, read the 14th Amendment. It talks only to citizens either born or naturalized. It does not require the States to supply an education to non-citizens.

  22. August 28, 2008

    5:41 p.m.
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    superduper (Anonymous) says...

    so if we don't have to have all the proper paper work then why do they require this? Before my children started I had to have all birth certificate, social security card, shot record. Not to mention the other things, like the teacher making a home visit. I couldn't even start my daughter in K-4 until I turned all that information in. Boy it's pretty bad when they hide behind the word HOMELESS, use it to cover up the fact that the children or the parents are illegal. What do you think would happen to me if I sent my children to school, and told the school we were homeless???????????????????????????????????

  23. August 28, 2008

    5:56 p.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    Poor Mr. Lucas, every time he speaks it gets ugly in here. lol

  24. August 28, 2008

    6:08 p.m.
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    silvbul (Anonymous) says...

    I stand very strongly against illegals but I don't think we should punish the children. It's not their fault. Let's hold the parents responsible.

  25. August 29, 2008

    8:17 a.m.
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    jsl47 (Anonymous) says...

    sparrow:

    If you are the pot, don't call the kettle black!

  26. August 29, 2008

    8:21 a.m.
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    SmileyFace (Anonymous) says...

    Hey dds8892,

    I am with ya!
    We need to stand up for our rights!

  27. August 29, 2008

    10 a.m.
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    amauldin (Anonymous) says...

    The McKinney Homeless Act was probably put into effect to protect those who were rendered truly "homeless" by the hurricane Katrina! I do not see how that can be argued as a valid point in reference to the initial question asked! We should have everyone provide immunization information.

  28. August 29, 2008

    5:37 p.m.
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    dds8892 (Anonymous) says...

    thank you smileyface!!!!! when i get back from this persian excersian i will check to see what permits and so forth i need so that i or we can take back our freedom.
    who else is with me???? everyone talks like they want to do something about the illegal and leadership problems that we have in oconee county but is anyone other than smileyface and i going to do something about it?
    this goes for all of you who post responses on here, are you man or woman enough to do something about it???
    i will be back before ole saint nick comes a calling, look for the ad in the seneca journal about the take back oconee county protest, i don't even have a name for it yet.
    we need to show the people who are in any form of government or leadership, that has a say so in politics in oconee county and has the power to make decisions that affects you and myself, that we as citizens and voters of oconee county will not stand for their mistakes and decisions any more.

  29. August 30, 2008

    9:34 a.m.
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    article1section8 (Anonymous) says...

    dds8892, you already have that permit you said you want to get for a peaceful protest. That permit has been in place for more than 200 years. You have "...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances" (First Amendment, U. S. Constitution). Over the years, cities and counties have convinced us we need their permission (permits) to exercise that Constitutional right. Something to consider.

  30. August 30, 2008

    12:16 p.m.
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    dds8892 (Anonymous) says...

    thanks for the info ARTICLE1SECTION8......i just do not want anything to get in the way of take back oconee county.
    i will have the money to get this thing going, the funds are not going to be a problem.
    SMILETFACE......i checked that web site out and it is outstanding.
    i guess i will not have the support of everyone on here that talks a good talk or type, i only have had 2 responses from people that blog on the tell willie section of this web site, the seneca journal.
    to let everyone know, look for the ad sometime in december that i wll be placed in news papers across the upstate for the protest........if you want to join me your most welcome to do so and if not then i wish you luck.

  31. August 30, 2008

    2:02 p.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    "i just do not want anything to get in the way of take back oconee county."

    Therein lies the reason why we've lost control of govt. I'm not dissing you dds, I think you have a good idea, but you say you want to take the county back and challenge the rest of us to have some guts but yet you lack the guts to push the envelope in favor of our Constitutional authority.

  32. August 30, 2008

    2:07 p.m.
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    Sparrow (Anonymous) says...

    We have been so overpowered and brainwashed by Fedcorp that we think we need a permit for all of our Bill of Rights. Peaceful assembly? Gun permit? The right of public officials to enter your home without a warrant? I don't think so!

  33. August 30, 2008

    3:30 p.m.
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    dds8892 (Anonymous) says...

    Right now i am in iraq and like sparrow said i guess i have been brain washed into thinking that i do need a permit, i do apologize but i have never did anything like this before and i apologize if i called everyone out.
    I return to S.C. sometime before the new year and i would really like for the protest to go down sometime then or the beginning of the new year.
    I am willing to take advice on what everyone would like to see happen to our current situation of leadership in oconee county, does anyone have anything to suggest????
    Let me know, please.

  34. August 31, 2008

    11:07 a.m.
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    reebop (Anonymous) says...

    I was just filling out a form. One of the questions was to choose between: Latino/Spanish,Other,or Rather Not Say. Since when did we as an American become "Other"? What kind of choice is that? Is that the only choice we have now? Has something changed we are not aware of? That is a perfect example of where the United States is headed if we don't stand up NOW!

  35. August 31, 2008

    2:22 p.m.
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    davidpatrick344 (Anonymous) says...

    ilegal is ilegal sent the teacher to the jail she can teach them there while they wait for the bus to mexico

  36. August 31, 2008

    2:27 p.m.
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    davidpatrick344 (Anonymous) says...

    you have seniors that cant aford their oxygen or pills and you expect us to take care of the ilegals send them home and take care of your own a man who does not provide for his own is worse than an infidel and that means city county or state

  37. August 31, 2008

    2:51 p.m.
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    oldsouth (Anonymous) says...

    Read todays (8/31) comment in the Independent Daily Mail.
    Headline..."Illegal immigrants released from custody on federal orders in Pickens County". Folks, they're turning them loose because ICE doesn't want to pick up the illegals. Why do we need this Fed. funded program?? I just fired off an email to Lindsey Graham with exerts from this article....what ever that's worth.

  38. August 31, 2008

    2:56 p.m.
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    oldsouth (Anonymous) says...

    Lindsey Graham's email if anyone needs it.

    http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/

  39. September 1, 2008

    8:15 p.m.
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    truthandjustice (Anonymous) says...

    You know folks, the schools welcome the illegals because the more attendance they have, they get more money. Oh yeah, it is our money too. Keep the pressure on them.

  40. September 2, 2008

    10:59 a.m.
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    raddis (Anonymous) says...

    illegal immigrants

    Im sure all 6,149 illegal immigrant children met the below requirments. If not someone should be held responsible. I do not think we as States would allow this just to get more federal funding!!! or would we!!!!

    McKinney-Vento Definition of “Homeless”
    Subtitle B of Title VII of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (Title X, Part C, of the No Child Left Behind Act) defines “homeless” as follows:
    The term “homeless children and youths”—
    (A) means individuals who lack a fixed, regular, and adequate nighttime residence (within the meaning of section 103(a)(1)); and
    (B) includes—
    (i) children and youths who are sharing the housing of other persons due to loss of housing, economic hardship, or a similar reason; are living in motels, hotels, trailer parks, or camping grounds due to the lack of alternative adequate accommodations; are living in emergency or transitional shelters; are abandoned in hospitals; or are awaiting foster care placement;
    (ii) children and youths who have a primary nighttime residence that is a public or private place not designed for or ordinarily used as a regular sleeping accommodation for human beings (within the meaning of section 103(a)(2)(C));
    (iii) children and youths who are living in cars, parks, public spaces, abandoned buildings, substandard housing, bus or train stations, or similar settings; and
    (iv) migratory children (as such term is defined in section 1309 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965) who qualify as homeless for the purposes of this subtitle because the children are living in circumstances described in clauses (i) through (iii).

    1309 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act
    (2) MIGRATORY CHILD- The term migratory child' means a child who is, or whose parent or spouse is, a migratory agricultural worker, including a migratory dairy worker, or a migratory fisher, and who, in the preceding 36 months, in order to obtain, or accompany such parent or spouse, in order to obtain, temporary or seasonal employment in agricultural or fishing work —
    (A) has moved from one school district to another;

    (B) in a State that is comprised of a single school district, has moved from one administrative area to another within such district; or

    (C) resides in a school district of more than 15,000 square miles, and migrates a distance of 20 miles or more to a temporary residence to engage in a fishing activity.

  41. September 2, 2008

    5:57 p.m.
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    truthandjustice (Anonymous) says...

    I wonder what Lucas has to say now. Good job, Raddis!

  42. September 4, 2008

    8:52 a.m.
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    Ken (Anonymous) says...

    dds8892, the 1st amendment does not give us the right to assemble; it gives us the right to peacefully assemble.

    mlucas251, the Supreme Court decision in (Plyler Vs. Doe) is unconstitutional in that it violates the 14th Amendment. The Supreme Court has lately violated several provisions of the Constitution.

    silvbul, nice sentiment however, if the Fed is going to insist that the states educate the children of illegal aliens, then the Fed must fully reimburse the states for the cost of doing so and they must do it without using taxpayer funds. Sure they will.

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