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In answer to the one with the convoluted mathematics. I don’t know where you learned math but you must have been asleep in class. Nobama wants to tax the rich and corporations. This will make it harder for employers to expand their companies and employ more people during these times of high unemployment. This will also indirectly tax the low and middle classes. Why? Because corporations don’t pay taxes, they pass the tax on to the customer in the form of increased prices for their product or services. In these present times, which were caused by the Congressional Democrats in cahoots with Fannie, Freddie and ACORN and Wall Street greed, raising taxes would further devastate our economy and our people. How in blazes do you think Nobama plans to pay for the increase in government programs that he has already admitted to?

On the other hand McCain wants to decrease taxes where and if he can which is by far the best way to help people get back on their feet and help the country out of this recession. For goodness sake get your head out of the sand and you do the math.

In regards to the Mexicans, I think I.C.E. needs to go ahead and bring their busses to Walhalla, well probably all of Oconee!!! I am not racist, I just feel they need to obey the law and come into our country legally and we have a right to know who is in our country. Criminal background and health background. And they should be able to pay their own medical expense (not use our emergency room as their form of health care) and pay for their children’s education!!

NObama + supporters = TROUBLE. That's math.

Thats cute odj and your math adds up.

Ken, you and odj must have watched the debate last night and realized it's over. Ya'll can bellyache all u want, but guess what? "THAT ONE" is going to win, thank goodness. Go Obama!! It is just way past time for some fresh new innovative ideas up there in "Cronie" land as McSame kept referring to. And the American people see that the new ideas are coming from Obama, not Mcsame.

openup: Guess what? If THAT ONE wins, you will be the one to bellache, and it ain't over till the fat lady sings, and I ain't singing. And even if, THAT ONE wins, I son't give up........jus do alot more praying, because we're gonna need it. also, our idea of FRESH isn't quite the same as yours. Just keep thinking ACORN, and wait until that all hits the big old fan.

Odj, copy that.

Openup, you might be right. The American people might just be stupid enough to vote Nobama into the Oval Office. After all they were stupid enough to put Carter in office and also to disregard Slick turning the Oval Office into a nookey parlor. If this clown is what the liberals want and they get out the vote he will be elected. This great nation has suffered worse times under worse people and we survived. I am afraid though that Nobama’s ineptitude will prolong this recession as FDR’s foolishness prolonged the depression of 1929.

WOW!! I just wikipedia'd ACORN. What a corrupt group of people. I wasn't sure exactly what the org was and got curious. I see that they endorse NObama. Why would anyone want to vote for him knowing one of his largest supporters has had many employees indicted for VOTER REGISTRSTION FRAUD. HELLO!!!
Openup, what part of your delusions of NObamas grandeur makes you think that he is the savior of our country. Furthermore, what makes you think congress will work with him any more than they have worked with any other president. I think we all need to wake up and realize that we are in for a world of hurt either way. Especially if "THAT ONE" gets the nod. Is it confirmed or hearsay that he was sworn into office on the kuran? I'm just asking the question not starting a new thread, curiosity you know.
And who really expected him to lose a debate? The man is trained to persuade his point no matter the situation, he's an attorney. You know, if you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bullspit!

Hay somethingstinks you are right, something does stink or rotten in Denmark or Skunk in the cider, oh you get my meaning. ACORN in cahoots with Fannie and Freddie is that outfit that talked low-income people into affordable housing that they could not afford. Those are the bad loans that you are now buying with your tax money, courtesy of the Democrats in Congress. What scares me is that the Democratic Congress WILL work with Nobama and will pass legislation that will again send this nation spiraling toward socialism. I had heard that he was sworn in on the Koran but I am not sure. Yes Nobama is a good talker, so was Jim Jones the self-proclaimed messiah who talked his followers into committing mass suicide.

Yeah, Ken, you're right about Jim Jones. Except he was selling your particular brand of superstition and myth.

Speaking of superstition and myth, let me ask you something.

How is John McCain going to pay for 100 more years of war in Iraq? By raising taxes, or borrowing billions more from the Saudi's and Chinese?

In a few months, here's another name you can call Barack Obama - PRESIDENT.

I would like to ask the person who said they couldn't believe that our tax notices are coming out again without an explanation of what has happened to the money that is missing from the County.

Could this be a campaign tactic by Greg Nowell to use in order to get votes? Where was Nowell when some of us were contesting the issue back in 2006? Doesn't Nowell own property in the county and shouldn't he have been concerned? Where was Nowell when the Council voted on a Supplemental Budget to make this extra money legal in the budget? Where was Nowell when Council and the School Board were budgeting this extra money in 2007 and 2008 when he was treasurer? If Nowell knew there was already too much money in the treasurer than the amount budgeted, why did he send it on to the Council and the School District for them to spend the surplus? If Nowell didn't know how much surplus he had on hand, shouldn't he have known? Nowell did not step forward and complained until after he found that he was going to have competition for the Treasurer's office, and after he found out that his inattention to the matter might be a campaign issue.

Palmettoyankee, as usual your ramblings defy logic and your attempts at humor lack mirth. Grow up and contribute something useful.

NObama, another "Hailbopcomet" to hang on to when you don't listen to the voice of reason, and believe in Pipe Dreams. Kinda like to good ole boy's get rich schemes to get out of a hard days work. I will never call him President (even if her is elected). Just Nobama, because in four(4) years our nation WILL realize their mistake and he will not be re-elected. Our country is in a terrible crisis, and the election of this NObody, will only increase our problems, and I thought we were looking for a way out of this mess, not to dig a deeper hole.

it was a rumor about the Koran, come on folks. do u really think he could have gotten this far into the election if he had ever sworn anything at all on the Koran? as much as most Americans fear Muslims, do u really think someone would be sworn in on a Koran, even if they were a Muslim? Please remember there are many citizens in this county that are Muslim and may do more for your community than you do.

Don't worry, Obama doesn't have a tail either.

This ignorance gets extremely old to those of us from a generation where these kinds of things don't matter. We want education for our kids, we want global warming to stop, we want a new kind of fuel technology and we want HOPE for our kids.

What kids? Pro-Choie will narrow the field for all of that HOPE.
And I don't believe you about the tail. Joke.

Oh my gosh. People, get educated! Obama was NOT sworn in on the Koran. That's simply more scandal as produced by the extreme right. Obama's won the past two debates and is up in the polls. Even key Republican commentators like Pat Roberts and Joe Scarborough are laughing at McCain at this point.

President Barack Obama...what a glorious day that will be!

Give me a break ODJ. nothing about pro choice is going to change. nothing changed when Bush was in, Clinton, or Baby Bush as far as pro choice. we all have our own personal beliefs on abortion. i don't believe in abortion personally. Don't start that social issue stuff, it is so old. If that is all people pick their candidate based on, they truly are ignorant. There are so many other issues out there.

glad to see you Clemsontigers, i have missed having your educated and open minded input.

Go Obama!!

Yeah, the abortion argument amazes me. I know people who vote based completely on the fact that they are pro-life. They ONLY vote for candidates that are pro-life. Yet, when those candidates get in office, like openup pointed out, Roe v. Wade doesn't get overturned. Why? Because Republicans know if they overturn it, they lose one of their biggest talking points.

I've been lurking around, openup, but haven't commented lately. Good to hear from you, too!

Openup and CT13, Roe V Wade and abortion on demand are moral issues not legal issues and as long as we have a liberal Supreme Court it will remain morally corrupt on those issues. That is why it doesn’t get overturned. And there is nothing wrong with judging a person on his moral character as well as on his dedication to this country and it’s Constitution.

Thank you Ken, and I will vote based on Moral character, because if a man isn't moral, he isn't likely to have much Character, period. I am pro-life, anti-gay, and any other thing that isn't part of God's plan, but some people don't think that that matters in the election. I strongly disagree, and nothing said will change that. I am not against the people themselves, just the decissions that they make. I am also "firmly planted" in my educated, open-minded views, and due to my Morality, No one will ever catch me on the fence or in like-warm waters. I am conservative to the core of my being, and THANK GOD.

But, didn't both Bushes appoint Supreme Court Justices? I know W did...I'm pretty sure daddy did, too. Reagan did. There have been more Republican Presidents in the past 20 years than there have been Democratic. Do you mean to imply that these Republican presidents are appointing liberal judges?

I never claimed that you can't judge one based on his moral character.

CT13 "I never claimed that you can't judge one based on his moral character."

You didn't? You wrote, "I know people who vote based completely on the fact that they are pro-life. They ONLY vote for candidates that are pro-life."

Are you saying that you just don't approve or that you can't vote based on morals.

Muddy, Tepid Waters.

What? Moral character spaeks to MUCH, MUCH more than one's stance on abortion.

Clean up your own waters before you call mine muddy.

We can not pick and choose which commandments to try to follow. We must try to follow them all. Note that I said try. I am far from perfect, and the first to admit it.

Morals and commandments do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. Athiests can have strong moral character. Or do you honestly believe that only Christians have morals?

CT13, God is the author of that which we call morals and they come from His commandments. There is no other source.

CT13: You and I will have to agree to disagree. That said, most morals have the same goals as the commandments. Do not cheat , steal , lie, kill, etc..............

Wow to both Ken and odj. I can't imagine what it's like to live in your world. I know people of many different faiths, and people who are of no faith at all, who are of strong moral character and are authentically "good" people. However, this whole tangent has strayed from the original purpose of this line of discussion. We've gone from Obama swearing in on the Koran, to abortion, to the Supreme Court, to morals, and now to religion.

So, to take it back to point, President Obam has a nice ring to it! : )

So for me to be a Christian I must agree with KEN and ODJ? i don't think so. For me to be a Christian I must vote for John Mccain? I don't think so.

I am a Christian. So is Barack Obama.

And I guess ol Helms and Thurmond and Byrd were too, weren't they? LOL, give me a break guys.

Wrong again openup, to be a Christian you must agree with God.

Ken, is it OK to lie?

Are you a liar for Jesus, Ken?

I don't think you're like me, Ken. You're all grown up. You're smart, I can tell. And I know that you know that Obama isn't a Muslim. You know he wasn't sworn in on the Koran. You've known that all along.

But it doesn't stop you from lying. You call yourself a Christian, but slander rolls off your tongue like water off a duck's back.

Is the Rev. Jeremiah Wright a Muslim? You remember him, don't you? He's supposedly Obama'a spiritual advisor. His sermons are all we heard about for awhile this summer. Remember?

Rev. Wright preaches the Gospel of Christ, Ken. Isn't that what you believe in? Obama caught all kinds of flack for going to his church. A Christian church, Ken.

For extra credit, Ken. Can you name the congressman that was sworn in on the Koran, and for double extra secret points, whose copy of the Koran did the congressman use?

I've been away and haven't finished reading all the comments yet since I had to stop at this one..

"do u really think someone would be sworn in on a Koran, even if they were a Muslim?"

Yup openup, Keith Ellison did.

Wish I had stopped reading when I did. You people amuse me, you vote for the candidate who you think is moral, it might be a stretch for y'all but remind me again which candidate has morals.

Palmettoyankee, I didn’t say that Nobama swore on the Koran. Other than that what you and I think isn’t important; what God said is important.

obamma did go to kenya and help his cousin run when his cousin was defeated obammas tribe did lock 300 people up in a church and burn it down iy was covered by bbc and obammas group acorn has been caught doing ilegal voter records thousand in nevada tonight another state just anounced they caught then to

"Is it confirmed or hearsay that he was sworn into office on the kuran? I'm just asking the question not starting a new thread, curiosity you know." That is what I said earlier. Where do you NObama FANATICS find accusation? My question required a simple yes/no answer. What the hell was the tangent you guys went off on!?!?

Do your own research, stinks. That's the responsibility of the American voter...to make INFORMED decisions. And you mean to tell me you really didn't know the answer to that question already? I know you're closely following the race, you know better.

Hay stinks, I said earlier that I had heard that Nobama swore the oath of office on the Koran. I really don’t know. It is plausible and possible but at the time nobody really paid much attention to the little tinhorn freshman Senator. If Nobama did swear on the Koran, the liberals who contribute to this column are ashamed to tell us. When you ask a civil question and get an answer like “do your own research, stinks” maybe they are trying to hide something. Actually though, what difference does it make? If we the people are stupid enough to put Nobama in office we deserve all the hardship we get. I remember 6 months after Carter was voted in as president, people were so fed up with him I couldn’t find anyone who admitted voting for him.

Actually CT, my decision is made. I WILL NOT vote for NObama. Oddly my problem with Nobama is not even NObama, it's his fanatical supporters that go into attack mode every time a question is asked. The question now is who I can vote for. Maybe I'll write in Lieberman, or Paul, or Huckabee.
Interesting tidbit: according to the wikipedia bio of Obama, he has traced his ancestry back to Jefferson Davis, the president of the confederacy. So maybe he has some presidential potential. Maybe not.

Ken, ODJ, Stinks, Sparrow and David Patrick, ya'll seem to have the same motivation that Mcsame has here lately. I guess if I was getting my tail whipped by a younger more intelligent version I might have to pull out some ugly stops too, NOT.

I guess in your book Xenophobia is acceptable. Not in my generation folks.

I am not ignorant, nor have I gone off on a tangent. Some people just don't want to hear anyone's opinion except their own. I commented on a comment, that I happened to disagree with. PERIOD. If you disagree, I do not care. You have that right. PERIOD. I did not say that NObama wasn't a Christian, either. Only God knows that, but as a Christian, I must vote as God leads me, not based on human research that may or may not be misguided.

Is it confirmed, or hearsay, that Sarah Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner?

I'm not saying she had an affair. I'm just asking. I really don't know if she had an affari. It has been reported in the National Enquirer that she had an affair with husband Todd's former business partner, Brad Hanson, and Hanson attempted to have the divorce records sealed and the National Enquirer is researching it all, and they were right about John Edwards, so maybe they're not too far from the truth about Sarah Palin's extra-marital activities.

But I'm not accusing her of anything. I mean, it is plausible and possible, but who paid much attention to a tinhorn governor of an obscure state with less than a million people until she was picked to be the Republican vice-presidential candidate.

I am proud to say that I am part of Obama's elitist list of people of faith who keep firearms, and some of his latest remarks displease me. We rednecks cling to our guns and our religion when we get frustrated, and God must love the common people because He made so many of them. I chose to know the common people and will not let his condescending remarks slide. The common people do matter & the rich liberals, baby killing crowd may think that we are stupid, but we are not. He doesn't respect the largest portion of our Armed Forces(the common), and so how can he make a good Commander in Chief? His statements are very concise and haven't been taken out of context as he wishes us to believe. I cannot fathom another President tearing apart our military, and I will gather my weapons and continue to go to Church and pray for our nation.

Hey Ken, Odj, Sparrow, Davidpatrick, see what I was saying about them going into attack mode. Now we are not even allowed to defend our opinions without childish reaction. I hope you are all enjoying this wonderful liquid sunshine.

I do not fear nor have hatred for strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign. I can be pretty strange myself and I love me. I even love you. Disagree with you, but.............

Hey stinks, the liquid sunshine is wonderful, by the way, and so are your opinions.

Thanks for the kind words Odj. And I think your opinions are spot on as well. There is one though I have to question. You stated above that basically not xenophobic. I have to disagree, you don't like NObama so you must hate everyone other than yourself. Look openup, I can twist peoples words and intentions, too! JK, ODJ.

Yes stinks, liberals will use the attack mode when they really have nothing of substance to say. Liberals skate on the thin ice of innuendo and misrepresentation and will throw up a wall of biting rhetoric and insults in order to mask the fact that their whole philosophy is an empty shell.

de Nada, Stinks: but please leave the twisting to them, it does not become you, my friend. I am so glad that you too, can make light of my remarks, and know that we do all have opinions. Keep it up.

Hay stinks and odj, I think O’Reilly of FOX news has the right idea. Elect McCain as president and convince him to appoint Juiliani as attorney general. Juiliani’s first priority would be to prosecute all of the congressmen such as Dodd, Obama, Frank and others and all of the corporate heads and probably most of the ACORN people for various crimes against the American people. Conviction should bring the forfeiture of all monies obtained through defrauding the American people plus long prison terms.

Yes, I agree Ken, and then we could start to see the light at the end of this tunnel.

I think everyone took their good idea pills this morning.

Hay stinks and odj, have you been hearing on the news lately about the ACORN people generating thousands of bogus voter registrations in Ohio and elsewhere? That would be another reason to prosecute and imprison the offenders. BUT, they are guilty of generating fraudulent voter records in a federal election. The first step should be to void all early voting in the state of Ohio and anywhere else it is being done. The states can do what they want in state elections but the federal election should be held on voting day in November, under the tightest of controls. You know that all of these fraudulent voters are Obama people and it is being done with his knowledge and blessing. It is one thing to win or lose an election fair and square but to lose to a cheat who can’t win honestly demeans the whole system. And this is the clown that might become our next president? Great horneytoads!

My goodness, comments are so good today, had to create an account to join in! First of all, Ken, I agree with odj ... I will support you for President!! Just a couple of questions for those Obama supporters - why specifically are you voting for him and please do not say change or do not want a 3rd term of Bush, that is not an answer in my book. And I am not trying to be funny or hateful or whatever, I have asked this question to many democrats and all they can say is "change" or not wanting a "3rd term of Bush". I will read your remarks with an open mind.

Welcome, Fred. Good luck getting that straight answer. The Dems on here don't like to do that. L8R

Hey Ken, check out these stats.

[edit] ACORN Employees and Allegations of Voter Registration Fraud
In some locations, ACORN employees have submitted false voter registration forms rather than obtaining registrations from actual eligible voters.

In Ohio in 2004, four ACORN employees were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms.[23][24]
In January 2005 two Colorado ACORN workers were sentenced to community service for submitting false voter registrations.[25] ACORN's regional director said, "we find it abhorrent and do everything we can to prevent it from happening."[26]
On November 1, 2006, four part-time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Missouri for voter registration fraud. Prosecutors said the indictments are part of a national investigation.[27] ACORN said in a press release that it is in part responsible in these individuals being caught, has fired them, and has cooperated and publicly supported efforts to look into the validity of the allegations.[28]
ACORN was investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis, Missouri. 1,492 fraudulent voter registrations were identified.[29][30]
In 2007, five Washington state ACORN workers were sentenced to jail time.[31] ACORN agreed to pay King County $25 000 for its investigative costs and acknowledged that the national organization could be subject to criminal prosecution if fraud occurs again. According to King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, the misconduct was done "as an easy way to get paid [by ACORN], not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections."[32][33]
In 2008, the Michigan Secretary of State office told the Detroit Free Press that ACORN had been submitting a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications to vote.[34]
State authorities in Nevada raided ACORN's offices in Las Vegas in 2008, alleging that its canvassers produced forms with false names, fictional addresses, or famous personalities. Neither ACORN nor any employees, however, have been charged with fraud or other crimes.[35][36]
October 8, 2008, Missouri officials announced an investigation into alleged voter fraud concerning some ACORN registered names. Some names were listed multiple times, had fake/missing addresses, no drivers licenses, bad social security numbers, etc. [37]

Source: Wikipedia
AND THE DEMS WANTED TO HELP THESE CROOKED JACKHOLES.

My, My, My, stinks you have done your homework. I printed out your fact sheet. Now that the bums are getting their jail time we need all that fraud voided by the Fed.

Thanks Fred, I appreciate that but I don’t think I can lie with a straight face.

Thanks for the welcome something. Good work on ACORN. It was stated on the news this morning that even though they told us they took out that funding in the bailout, they really didn't (surprise, surprise)- it is not listed as ACORN $20 million or whatever - but to various other groups that are a front for ACORN, but now that all of this is hitting the fan, a group of Senators have sent a letter (and I am sorry I can't remember who to) stating they want NO money to go to the groups named in the Bailout who in turn gives it to ACORN - so there you have it. No wonder congress has the lowest approval rating in I don't know how long.

Welcome, Fred. We too, are awaiting the answers to your questions. (Ken, Stinks, Eddo, DavidPatrick, Mooretwins, Sparrow,) to name a few. We don't seem to be very popular at times, but we welcome you and your opinions. New voices with new posts are a breath of fresh air.

Why thank you odj! Still waiting for my answer .......

I am so proud that the National Enquirer finally got something right, and concerning a fellow South Carolinian.

I would never have known, because I haven't read the National Enquirer since the cover stated that, "Chocaholic mom gives birth to sugar coated baby." Kinda made me want to get my news elsewhere.

Would it be fair to say that the Democratic Senators are also a front for ACORN because they tried to include $20 million for then in the bailout package? The House in their wisdom rejected it before they signed on to the Bill.

lol odj. National Enquirer???? Good grief palmetto ... you can do better than that can't you?

You got it Ken .. but wait a minute we can't say that cause then we would be called "hateful, nasty, racist, etc etc" ... Harry Reid just announced "Franklin Raines, who you're talking about, worked for Fannie Mae, was there for a while. The only connection that people could bring up about Raines and Barack Obama is that they are both African-American, other than that there is nothing."

Now .... here it is Dems calling race back into it. Second, I would love to be at a job "for awhile" and walk away with 90 million!, Third, hello..... did we forget the $126,000 Obama got from Fannie and Freddie????

Unbelievable .... doesn't surprise ACORN is from Dingy Harry's state.

Fred, I think palmetto is being his usual self and injecting venom and sarcasm when he is beaten by reason and common sense. It may also be possible that our liberal friends are licking their wounds now that Nobama’s connection with the crooked ACORN group has become common knowledge. And lets not forget his buddy the terroris