sorry to inform the person who says zoning will make this person clean up the junk, well this person needs to understand what zoning is and how it works. Zoning does not clean up anything that is already established before zoning , zoning will only keep someone else in the future from doing this, I know this person you speak of , and he makes his living to feed his family with this junk. I have known him all his life and his Dad which is not on earth anymore did the same thing for all his life to provide for his family.This guy you speak of has done this since he was a child. Not everyone has a fancy place or fancy job to go to , this was a sparsely populated county and people had to do some things just to live and survive here. I hope they zone you out of the county with an additude the way some have against locals in moblie homes and in privite yards. I say that a rock that someone piles up in a yard for decoration is and needs to be zoned out. You people need to learn about the locals and the way some of us had to survive before spouting off about the yards and why we need zoning. All we really need is the nit pickers to go find a new place if they don't like what is in my yard. I am against zoing 100% Walhalla, Westminster and Seneca, along with other cites in other counties have had zoning for years and I see no clean up there. only if someone has a beef with neighbor do they enforce a a law called zoning. Please learn about the word and the way it is used in South Carolina, as before zoning everything that is in place will be grandfathered in so you will never clean this mans yard of junk with zoning.
I chose not to use comma's because you have limited amount of caracters you can use in these posts. Comma's and periods use up the caracter space. Thanks anyways, but we are not grammer posting ,want the point across that this has been a one sided story any the truth needs to be told.If codes are to be enforced then Seneca needs to start in the Downtown Store buildings, as these are unsafe and not up to codes.The Beer joints are very unsafe, Kimbrell's is unsafe , The Harpers Building looks like it is ready to cave in.Same in Walhalla, I talked to Walhalla Zoning Director personally myself 2 years ago about store buildings on main street of Walhalla, And he said that every building was up to codes. I know that most do not have Bathrooms for employees and no running water, now this is in Codes, that this must be installed and working propery. I see no Fire sprinkler systems in place. Blocked exits. Take for example , during Christmas , Seneca Fire Department was in Big Lots more than once for Code violations. We ,the public didn't even hear about these complaints. See everyone wonders why so many empty downtown buildings, Codes are so outdated on these buildings and property owners are not putting money into these out dated and unsafe buildings that no one wants to occupy them. Take example of the Red Cross Building in Walhalla, It was found that the leaking roof had rotted the building over years and it started giving big problems, now termites has weaked the structure and us tax payers are going to have to foot the bill for repairs once again. all because of a SLUM LORD ,yes I said that, let the building run down, then sold it to Red Cross and should have really been condemed and torn down.Same as the old West Union School Building that has hole in roof and broken windows and it was suppose to be torn down but was saved and given a time frame for major repairs , nothing done yet. Same as in Seneca, as this city has had strict codes for years but chooses to let some slide by and others to be punished. I guess it is who you are as to if you get busted by the codes department in these citys . Now see what will happen when the County trys to enforce the codes that the County is trying to set up . The GOOD OLE' BOY SYSTEM HAS GOT TO GO! County Buildings are so run down, School buildings abandoned all over the state. IF the State,City's and Counties would keep up the property that is in their possession, then maybe private land owners would take more pride in the propery that is in our possession. Remember that everything is aready in place, is grandfathered in in Zoning, so Zoning doesn't fix or clean up any eyesore someone complains about.All I hear with county residents is we got to have ZONING to clean up someone else's yard. This LAW will never clean up anything it will just prevent future places from looking like this.Everyone that wants ZONING needs to read and see what state guidelines and policys are in ZONING.
So here we go again, We had Spencer Wilson who was fixing some old derelicts up then was stopped because of the type of siding he was using. Now are we going to be real picky on materials used to fix these houses up? I also see that downtown stores are just as run down and lets not forget the oil mill that burnt, it was said that nothing could be done about those old buildings as it is private property. Seneca, is only protecting some interests, depends on who you are.I also would like to see Seneca,start enforcing this code to the County , like run down school buildings and library that are in Seneca, Back to downtown, the old Harpers building is run down and appears to be out of codes ,lets enforce every building and houses in the codes if one is punished all need to be punished , this is hard times and will get harder so we are going to see more houses and buildings left unmaintained due to no money because we pay high taxes and the economy is so far gone it is going to take 5 to 10 years to see any light of day. Lets take the shabby shelters at Norton park down this is a disgrace to Downtown Seneca,so trashy looking and tacky in my opinion, see that is what everyone sees in these old houses trash, same as I see at Norton Park trash built by Seneca.
another comment on Zoning. This word Zoning is not effective and will not help you get someone to bring his yard into standards. I try to attend meetings at the Council Meetings, but the County Council is so scared of the public ony limited space is avalible,(need a meeting place big enough for all that attend to get the full affect of the meeting) and without getting into the room to hear the meeting and a chance to address the council on these laws. I know that Laws are aready in place without spending tax payers dollars to implement or pay a zoning planner /enforcement. If you will get a copy of the 2006 International Building Codes Book. a section in this book mandates property guidelines, it even mandates the height of grass in your yard.Seneca, has adopted this law in zoning, but if you ride down east main street below the Postoffice,You will see all kinds of infractions to the laws they have in place, see Codes Department does not enforce to everyone, just the one's they choose to. This is called The GOOD BUDDY SYSTEM which is wrong. The Building Code Inspectors are the ones who is suppose to be enforcing these laws that are aready in place, but are not doing the job put before them. Our tax dollars pay this department and we are not getting the full job for the pay. This needs to be addressed and brought to the admistrators attention. These Property Maintaince Laws are way more strict than any zoning law ever wrote. I think the People who voice for ZONING are not brought up to speed on the latest tecnoligy that we have avalible to us. I am against ZONING and everything it stands for. Because if we would have put laws in place in the early 1960's the Lake People would not have had a place to come to to grip about the ones who were borned ,raised and lived here all of our lives and had to do with what we had to survive and live here in a rual farming area. See Progress cleans up for a short while then, houses and buildings are abandoned or let go to go out and build the state of the art structure which becomes outdated before it is even payed for. Also to add I have been told by several people in the county that the County Council is trying to do away with our Codes Department, Well that would be good if they are not doing the job, but according to the International Codes book , you got to have a codes department. This is just a rumor but if it is fact it needs to be addressed before our Great 7 Council members cost us more tax payer dollars.I am not trying to downplay anyone, I just wanted to let people know, that Zoning is not the answer to the problems and that the most effective law and it is already in place is the International Building Codes, and in it is a section on the Property Maintaince Code, already in place and people to enforce it, I have not read or heard of one person trying to voice this law that would help the one's that are complaining ,because of the lack of zoning.
the man who is trying to sell his house is really affected by the ecomony more than his neighbors yard. I do understand what has been done with mobile homes being stripped for the metal to sell. Zoning will not fix this problem because everyones yard is grandfathered in. You are not getting the big picture . See South Carolina has already in place and Oconee County has adopted these rules out of the 2006 International Building Codes. First if someone builds or dismantles any structure, a building permit or demolation permit has to be bought and payed for,the building codes inspectors should follow up, but most are not as they ride around they see infractions that need addressed but choose to close their eyes, or it may be a buddy and they let him slide through the system . These laws are very strict and are in place with the codes enforcement already hired to enforce these laws. Now we need to get the County to abide by this and enforce it. This will clean up the properties under the property maintaince codes in this 2006 code book and zoning will never clean up anything it just prevents someone who has not already had something established as what you all determine an eyesore to not be added. I think every citizen that wants zoning for the porpose to clean up the county , to really research and understand what that word ZONING and the way zoning laws are written per guidelines to understand before wanting them in place, they need to pay about $80.00 and buy the 2006 International Building Codes Book and read what the section in these laws Property Maintiance Codes Dictates, and who is to enforce them. See we have the laws and enforcement people already in place ,but no one is pushing to mandate that we use this , all we here about is zoning. That will not clean up any existing yard. I hope this message helps You understand why you have neighbors that are so sloppy to your standards. I bet if you looked at you tax notice on your property your value went up not down because of your neighbors trash. See everyone does not look outside the box, just only what concerns you in the way you view your neighbors. Have you offerd to help clean up their property to make yours more atractive? I bet not , you sit there gripping but not offer help.
Wow I got news for you dude!!! I did not recall Obama being the President Yet!! I was making a general statment that important people does not dress like that I see all the clothes in stores modeled after the Rappers and they get the ill fitting clothes idea from Prison clothing. I was making a factual statement and you want to turn it into racism. I will also state that Garmin7979 you do not have the right to bring religon in on this as the pictures you see Of Jesus is what Man has pictured him to look like. Well if we were back in George Washington's day we would all be wearing wigs.See this day and age you have to teach Values I guess you are without values to say the things you do on here everytime I write a comment. If you were a Man then you would grow up and not be a trouble maker on here,Get a life dude.You may find it a little easier to read my comment . You are not God so you are not perfect . I will not stand for you trying to put me down for what I comment on so now the fight is on Brother!!!!!!!
Well here we go again. Rebell in the school system,because of dress code. I find that why you send children to school is to learn and be able to adapt in the world's work force. I hate to see people out of uniform at work. I worked in a local Plant in Oconee County that started a dress code of uniforms, most rebelled,but soon adapted the process as if they didn't they would no longer have a job. See if you put football or basketball. soccer, or baseball players out on the playing field out of uniform ,we would not know what side the players were on, and with all the killing and people being in a school that should not be there ,then we are policeing and making schools safer for our kids. I went to Walhalla Schools in the 1960's and 70's,and if we would have had a dress code back then well maybe things would have been better, but now the world has gotten a lot more aggressive and shootings and drugs are more in the schools now. I for one would want my child if I had one in school to be out of harm's way and get the best education and learn to dress to go out into the workforce and be productive. The "thug or gang" related clothing is baggy and ill fitting clothes that the clothing manufacturers have modeled after ill fitting prison clothing. Well if you want yor kid to dress like the "Rappers" or other idols ,then guess what--- Your child may end up in prison because that is the only place that ill fitting clothing will fit into this society,not in our productive work force. I hope that I never see the President of the United States in such ill fitting dress code. So start young in teaching proper dress atire and who knows maybe your Kid will make a difference in the way the world is run. Dress for the occassion ,not to impress the Gangs and Thugs that I see coming from this kind of slouchy Dressing. It is about time we got Values started while kids are young. it is hard to teach an ole' dog new tricks and with kids becoming our next young adults to go out and run our work force it starts at Home with values and in the schools. I am a Tax Payer For The County School System and by that I believe that now some of my money is now being well spent on education ,a part of education is a Dress Code.
This is a farse, you have a controlling majority of the people attending and voicing that are living in gated communities. These people who live in side the gates already have land use regulations. And while some want the county to be restricted ,most of the citizens do no want restrictions. We are being forced to abide by the wealthy and the high society bosses. If I buy and pay for my land and keep taxes payed on it I should be able to put what I want on my property,Mobile homes and so called Junk cars if I want them. I say it is no worse than the lake people having all their decorations in their yards,like swimming pools and lawn furniture. or their fancy rose gardens. My land and what sits on it is what I want ,not what others want me to have. Quit being a select type of individual that thinks of only the investment of their property ,I payed for mine just like you did ,with hard earned cash,I sweated to have my property and what's on it and if you don't like it close your eyes or find away to advoid going around where you might find an eyesore yard . I can't come into the gated communites and see if I like their yards so stay behind your gates if you don't like what you see here. It is mine and paid for and I bet I will die fighting to keep my Mobile Home and Junk Cars in my yard . I have just as much right to have in my yard what I want as you Gated people. Why do you come here to start trouble? I didn't go to where you are from or jump up and say no to you putting your gates around the lake if you are so hard up to pay 5 times as much as that land was worth ,I say that you are to ignorant to tell me what I should have on my property. Get it and get it clear ,if you want to fight the Army needs fighters , I just need neighbors that are not controlling.I don't care what my neighbor does as long as it is legal and I do not mean that a home that is stick built or mobile like a mobile home is illegal,or if some one wants a junk car or two in their yard that shouldn't be illegal either. Just keep the druggies and the homeless out of our county.Junk cars and mobile homes do not have to leave my county.I am a borned citzen of Oconee County and a Taxpayer. I own land in Oconee County next just outside of Seneca, and land inside Walhalla. I have a Mobile home on one and a Mill Hill House built in 1924 and are proud to own a peice of the American Dream. I have my so called junk in my yards also and are proud of every peice of it. As it all belongs to me.It must be desirable to have as I get offers all the time for my junk car that is not for sell. Seems like a lot of people is getting into the junk dealings these days as it is starting to become profitable.
Wow, Lets really get serious about South Carolina roads. The SCDOT had a woman supervisor who used her family busniness to take care of our roads while our state owned tractors sit idling just to add time to them and wearing them out without using them to keep up our roads while her family busniness pocketed all of our state tax dollars and on top of that she retired with a millon dollar pension. so the State is out of funds to repair and mow our roads because of waste in our government. Also our county roads are in such bad shape and the County cuts the budget for the roads dept. but pushes for Spec buildings and Sewer at the Ables Hayfield County Commerce Park in FairPlay next to I85. Sounds like another government problem .Also the Sherriffs dept budget is cut and now our emergency service is pushed with a 10 millon dollar fire dept for Westminster,well without good roads you will never get those fire trucks to the fire in safe and quick manner. Our fire dept was not broken maybe a little out dated but most of the Fire chiefs in the 17 county fire depts would not apply for federal funds so now us Taxed to death taxpayers are paying for A county Fire protection ,yet our roads are not equipped to send fire trucks to heart attack calls all over the county . Seems like someone watched to many tv programs where they have 4 lanes and flat terrin and good roads for those fire trucks to respond to every little 911 call. Oconee County is not equipped for those fire trucks to be racing all over for what our county Rescue and Hospital Ambulance should be responding to.Fix the Roads so it is safe then move to other services not start in the middle and never work outwards. This is putting the cart before the horse. Roads are and should be the number one priorty in This County And the State Of South Carolina.
Flush ------------ Sewer-------- uses water---------Where are they going to get water to flush -------sewer at the hayfield? Flush--------sewer---------flush--------sewer---No water---- Lakes and streams drying up---------flush-----sewer.LOL---flush-----Sewer--------The joke is on us Taxpayers-----Flush-------Sewer------The burden is on us Taxpayers----Flush-------Sewer-----The stink will be on us Taxpayers---Flush ----Sewer-----no WATER--------Think about it County Council before you Flush our precious Tax Dollars down the Sewer-----Flush----The----Sewer---in--a--Hayfield----Flush------Tax dollars on speculation the County Council is the Sewer-------flush!!!!!!!!
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sorry to inform the person who says zoning will make this person clean up the junk, well this person needs to understand what zoning is and how it works. Zoning does not clean up anything that is already established before zoning , zoning will only keep someone else in the future from doing this, I know this person you speak of , and he makes his living to feed his family with this junk. I have known him all his life and his Dad which is not on earth anymore did the same thing for all his life to provide for his family.This guy you speak of has done this since he was a child. Not everyone has a fancy place or fancy job to go to , this was a sparsely populated county and people had to do some things just to live and survive here. I hope they zone you out of the county with an additude the way some have against locals in moblie homes and in privite yards. I say that a rock that someone piles up in a yard for decoration is and needs to be zoned out. You people need to learn about the locals and the way some of us had to survive before spouting off about the yards and why we need zoning. All we really need is the nit pickers to go find a new place if they don't like what is in my yard. I am against zoing 100% Walhalla, Westminster and Seneca, along with other cites in other counties have had zoning for years and I see no clean up there. only if someone has a beef with neighbor do they enforce a a law called zoning. Please learn about the word and the way it is used in South Carolina, as before zoning everything that is in place will be grandfathered in so you will never clean this mans yard of junk with zoning.